October 2012 LSAT Instant Recap

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I just walked home after taking the third LSAT of my life. If you’re reading this, you likely just took the exact same exam. Congratulations to all of us, my friends, and thank God it’s over.

My experience was interesting, to say the least. I’m currently in the middle of a bout with mono, and haven’t eaten any solid food in a few days. Also, while we at Blueprint LSAT Prep always recommend getting a good night’s sleep before the test, I foolishly spent all of last night fighting off a fever and running to the bathroom. Needless to say, I don’t think I pulled a 180. C’est la vie.

But enough about me, let’s talk about the October LSAT.

So how was it? Pretty normal, I’d say.

Logical reasoning was logical reasoning, as it always is. A pretty mixed bag of questions running from super easy to pretty hard. If I had to make a call, I’d say it was maybe on the less difficult side. I don’t really remember getting super stumped by more than one or maybe two questions. Also, other than a strangely worded prompt in what turned out to be a very standard question, there were very few quirks.

Reading comp was pretty difficult, I thought. I actually had reading comp both first and third, so I’m not sure which one was real, but I did find both of them to be a bit rough. Although to be perfectly honest, that may have been subjective. RC tends to take the biggest hit when you’re not performing at your best, so me being sick, tired, and just overall miserable may have made it seem harder than it actually was. Nonetheless, this is probably where I missed most of my questions.

Games were pretty straightforward. There were a lot of things that we’ve seen before, really nothing that could be called “new.” One game that looked rough to begin with ended up being very easy. The hardest game was probably the last, just because it was so wordy. But if you took the time to read the setup carefully, and really understand what was going on, the questions became very doable, albeit still a bit tedious. It was definitely a situation where you needed to buy yourself some time for that last game by doing the easier ones quickly.

What did you guys think of the October LSAT? Agree? Or am I totally off base? Let us know in the comments, but be careful. LSAC doesn’t allow one to discuss the specifics of the test, so don’t include stuff that’s too revealing, or our moderators will have to axe your comment.

185 Responses

  1. Mike says:

    I had three logical reasoning sections. I agree that they were pretty straightforward. I also thought the last logic game was very wordy and therefore tricky. Otherwise, I felt very prepared for this test. Thanks, Blueprint!

  2. Robert says:

    For the most part, I agree.

    Logical Reasoning was a breeze.

    I had another Logic Games as the experimental, and one on them was decidedly rough.

    However, Reading Comprehension was utterly terrible and unusually difficult. I under performed here the most. It didn’t help that the easiest passage was the third one (even though I went through and knocked out the ones with the most questions beforehand). If this test has a forgiving curve, it will be because of RC.

    • Claire says:

      I could not agree with you more! The passages left me staring at them like “WHAT was this!” but then I calmed down and remembered EVERY answer can be found in the passage without extraneous info. I hope you did well and the curve boosts that for all of us even further!

  3. Robyn says:

    I had RC 1st and 3rd, LR 2nd and 5th, and games in 4. I think I did fine on the games and LR. RC, not so much. I woke up with a horrible toothache and just couldn’t stay focused on the long passages. Guessed on the last passage of each RC section due to time. Well played, LSAT.

  4. Trey says:

    I agree with just about everything said.

    LR- straight forward, only a two/three on each section which required more time than usual.

    Games- first three fairly easy, 4th was very tough and unusually wordy.

    Reading- rough, two stories in particular extremely complex and hard to follow.

    A lot of scores will depend on RC

  5. Jessica says:

    I had LR, LR, RC, LR, LG…nothing too hard, but a few weirdly worded questions.

  6. Matt says:

    I feel like the LR were 25/25 (rather than 25/26), and the total number of questions was down by 1 to 100. Anyone else?

  7. Katie says:

    I had RC, LR, RC, LG, LR.

    I found the first RC REALLY hard and the second RC a bit better, possibly just because I had my bearings by then. Needless to say, I’m hoping the second one is scored…was really hoping for the 175-178 range that I was getting on my practice exams. I’m fairly certain if that first RC is scored, I won’t be getting that! Haha.

    • gina says:

      unfortunately after talking to other people about their reading comp (they had logic games twice), we figured out that those that had the reading comp first and third (myself included)- first was not experimental. third was. fML lol at least logic games made up for it. i think..

      • Gracie says:

        I had the LG as my experimental. Sec 1 and either 4 or 5 if I remember correctly. Do you know which of those was that experimental?

      • C says:

        I actually spoke to people about theirs too and we figured out that the 1st was experimental. They all had the same passage I had in the 3rd section. I wish I could say what it was!

        • Meek says:

          I agree, people keep saying the 2nd RC was experimental. But my brother took the test too and his only RC section was the same as those(including myself) who had two RC.

  8. John says:

    I had RC LR LG LG LR….. first logic game much harder than the second. Any clues about which will be dropped would be awesome.

    • Ann says:

      I had RC LR LG LG LR, my sister took the test with me but in different room, she had two LG sections as well, but one of them was different from one of mine, so we concluded that my first LG was experimental. whew

      • Gracie says:

        Do you remember what logic games were on the one that you believe is the real section?

        My sections were LG RC LR LR LG; I wonder if my first and second LG were in the same order as yours…

  9. Trey says:

    Yes the LR was 25/25, and test was 100 q’s

  10. steph says:

    I had RC, LR, RC, LG, LR.

    I thought the first RC section was ridiculous. I know I did better on the second RC section but I still found the passages tough… I wasnt even able to get to the third passage. Games is my strongest section and the last game killed me. I didnt even understand WHAT it was saying or how to set it up. It just confused me…. The second LR section was a little harder for me but I think thats only because I let my emotions get the best of me. I was upset about the previous games section and it definitely affected my mindset during the last LR.

    Did anyone else have a lot of trouble with the last game? Im still trying to remember the rules and figure it out. It’s driving me crazy.

    • Kathy says:

      I also had RC, LR, RC, LG and LR. I agree the last LG messed me up. And after I got shook by the last LG then I was also shook for the last section of LR. I also had some issues with the length of the RC passages. I left thinking that since it’s my 3rd time my only hope is that since I took the 1st in June 2011 if this is a bust I will just take again in June 2013. I was surprised that the size of the test takers was 1/2 of what is was for the Feb 2012 sitting. Maybe because the price of taking the test has gone up?

      • Katie says:

        Not the test, the cost of law school in general and the return on your investment. People are running for the (non-law-school) hills.

  11. Jake says:

    @Katie – same. I’m 99.9% confident that the first reading comp was the experimental. Having two reading comps in the first phase of the LSAT should be deemed as cruel and unusual punishment. I only had 5 minutes to do the last passage on reading comp, so I’m not sure if my score will be what I want.

    LR was rather easy, LG’s had two difficult games, but were relatively easy once you were able to grasp the densely worded games.

  12. Matt says:

    I had 2 LGs, both 23 questions

  13. Katie says:

    Definitely 23, Jack.

    Jake – Do you know if we got the same experimental sections if they were definitely in the same order?

  14. Katie says:

    Truthfully, however, it’s all a blur – people on a board were talking about which RC was real…and I honestly can’t even remember whether the 1st or 3rd was the one they said, lol.

  15. Franny says:

    I had reading comp, logic games, logical reasoning, logic games, and another logical reasoning section.

    I agree on almost everything that’s been said here–reading comp was a little more difficult than usual, and I had to guess on about four questions in one of the passages because I didn’t have time to read it. One logical reasoning section was absurdly easy to me, but the other was a bit difficult. Logic games are my weakest section, so my judgment isn’t too great on it, but I thought both of them were medium in difficulty. Two games were very easy, one was a little time consuming, and one was tough–that’s how it went for both sections for me.

  16. Anonymous says:

    Reading was hard, my experimental reading was really easy though. :/

    Arguments were way easier than June 2012. Games were okay, not too hard, not too easy.

    Glad people share my view on reading, hopefully we’ll all get a nice curve out of it.

  17. Joe says:

    I had a killer RC for section 1 which killed a great deal of my confidence and threw me off for my Section 2 LR. Than RC Section 3 was easier, But I kept thinking I may have already blow the my score. I had a hell of a time with LG question 2 and 3, but sec 5 LR wasn’t bad. I think it really depends on which RC counted and those 2 games for me.. Either way it looks like ill be taking it again in DEC..

  18. Erin says:

    I had LR RC LR LR LG.

    Does anyone remember any of the questions from the LR? It’s very difficult to tell which one didn’t count!

    • Allaina says:

      I had LR 26, 25, 25.

    • Sarah says:

      I had the same order. I thought the first LR was a challenging, there was only like 1 weaken question I think which was odd….

      • Shiv says:

        I had LR, RC, LR, LR, LG. Do you know which LR was experimental? I thought the 1st one was pretty hard, didnt finish it, the other two were pretty easy

        • Saamisback says:

          Same! Are all the experimentals at the same place for all the test takers? I feel like if it was not for that first LR section, i could be getting a good score on this.

          • Peter says:

            Same how I felt. I had to guess on 5 for the 26 LR and I usually guess on 1 or 2. I’m thinking that this test was out of 100 Qs? Anyone else?

    • Andrew says:

      I also had that order. The first LR seemed too easy and only had 22/23 questions, whereas the other LR sections continued the trend seen on the June exam. [more ‘Principle’ related questions]

    • Claire says:

      I had the same exact thing, I was just glad I didnt have 2 RC because of the fact they REALLY drain my brain. It is easier to focus on LR or LG than any RC because each question is a new “topic”.

  19. andrew says:

    RC LR RC LG LR

    I am glad that I am not the only one that found the 1st RC terribly difficult. The 2nd RC, while still challenging, was a million times more like what we have studied.

    My gut is telling me that the 1st RC was experimental; but if LSAC is trying to inflict pain and deflate dreams, then it’s otherwise.

  20. Jaime says:

    I had RC LR RC LG LR

    I am REALLY hoping the first RC is the experimental…I don’t feel good about my performance :(

  21. Phil says:

    I had 3 LRs, and my 5th section was an LG. I normally have no issues with games but that last game stumped me. We’ll see how it affects my overall score, i’ll be rooting for a lenient curve.

  22. Katie says:

    I’m pretty confident about which RC is experimental now….but have no recollection, for the life of me, whether it was the first or third or the one I had issues on or anything of the sort, lol. So…I suppose I’ll just have to wait for my test like a normal person ;)

  23. Allaina says:

    The RC section being 27 questions was kinda rough, as well as the final LG, for the sheer fact that it was wordy. I looked WAY too far into the first LG, thinking I had to do more than necessary, which wasted a good minute, but I feel like I was accurate in the end.

    • Tom says:

      Yeah I wrote out the first logic game felt like I was missing something and immediately skipped forward. After I did 2 3 and 4 I went back and did all the questions in like 4 minutes and I felt like it was a lot easier

    • Claire says:

      ME too and the last LG threw me for a LOOP. I needed 5 extra minutes….. if only they were nice enough to provide that!

  24. Angela says:

    I had LG RC LR LR LG

    I found that the last question of the last LG was unlike anything I had seen or practiced. Sucks they put such a wordy, involved one last I only had five minutes to tackle it which def wasn’t enough time.

    LR seemed pretty straightforward and the RC was kind of a blur but seemed longer and more difficult than usual

    Similar experiences?

  25. Trevor says:

    I had two logic games, I’m pretty sure I bombed the latter one. Anyone have any idea which one was experimental?

  26. JJJJ J says:

    I had LG,RC,LR,LR,LG
    My first LG was tough, but who cares it didn’t count. The RC had one difficult reading, so I didn’t read it. I never get threw 4 readings anyway.

  27. Susie says:

    I had RC LR RC LG LR.

    The first RC was horrendous, killed my confidence, and I even considered walking out of the test. The second RC section was more of what I was used to .. I guess we can only wait and see but it is good to know that others think RC was HORRENDOUS

    • Joe says:

      Same situation… I was expecting a lot, but not INSANE RC, LR, RC. Terrible way to start off a test. I feel if I had LG first The momentum would have eased my nerves earlier, but I guess that was too much to ask for. In registering for December later this week.

      • Al says:

        The first Reading Comprehension was SO RIDICULOUS!! It was nothing like any practice test I have ever taken, and judging from what people are saying, this is the one that counted… really lsac??

        I can’t believe they would count a 27 question section with extremely wordy/hard to understand passages yet alone questions. Usually one of my strongest sections and I didn’t get to the last passage in either one. (I had two RC sections). Ridiculous… hoping these comments about a possible “curve” are true…

  28. Allison says:

    I had RC, LR, LG, LG, LR. The first games section was pretty difficult, but that’s the only section I remember really struggling with.. How do you know you all know which sections were experimental?

  29. Taryn says:

    RC LR LG LG LR

    Am I the only one that had two games sections?

    The first Games section that I had was laughably easy so I knew right off the bat it was experimental.

    For my second games section:
    I do agree with everyone else that Game 4 was really difficult to understand in the set-up and sucked up most of my time.

  30. Patrick says:

    I had LG, RC, LR, LR, LG.

    First LG was crazy hard for me, and it threw me off for the rest of the exam. Looking back on it, I should have just said “hey it could be the experimental”…anyways, I will be retaking the exam in December, despite a diagnostic score that would have sufficed to get me into my top choice school. What a waste my prep course was, I went backwards…

    Hope you all got the scores you hoped for, best of luck if you are like me and are already studying for the December test.

  31. APU says:

    I had LR, RC, LR, LR, LG

    I am confident for those who had two RC sections the 3rd was the experimental.

  32. Andrew says:

    My experimental was a LR. My RC was second, it was still early in the test. I actually finished reading and made and attempt to answer all the questions. I felt good about it, but hearing some people say that it was difficult is very disconcerting. Plus the LG kicked my butt.

  33. Daniel says:

    I hard RC, LR, RC, LG, LR

    First RC was horrible

    LR was standard

    Last game in LG was hard

    Really really hoping that first RC was experimental

  34. Hiya says:

    I had RC for the first and third section. The first was pretty difficult, the third was much more like the questions I had studied

    Does anyone have any idea which RC section counted? Really hoping the first one was experimental…

    • Lene says:

      The third one was the experimental, talking to multiple people in my exam and that was the consensus based on our topics of reading

  35. Sean says:

    I had LR RC LR LR LG. I’m trying to figure out which LR was the experimental one for those who had the same order as me? It seemed to me the first LR was the easiest one

    • christina says:

      I had the same thing too. I guess this determines if it’s out of 100 or 101. I thought the LR before the break was hardest.

    • Andrew says:

      I had the same order and I agree with you that the first LR seemed not only easier than the other two, but easy period. I remember thinking that there were too few questions [23?]. My guess that the other two will be counted b/c they were more like the June 2012 LR sections.

      • christina says:

        Hmmm. My first LR had 26 questions. The other two had 25.

        • Sean says:

          I think all 3 of my LR’s had 25 questions, so I think this lsat will be out of 100. I have talked to some people but I cannot confirm yet that the first LR for us was the experimental.

          • Jane says:

            I had 3, 25 question sections too. Sean, are you sure you had that? Now I am just psyching myself out thinking I didn’t answer one…

          • Sean says:

            Yeah I’m 100% sure each of my LR sections was 25 questions, but I cannot remember any of the questions for each section to ask my friends. Therefore, I still have no idea what the experimental section was for us

        • Andrew says:

          DAMN! I hope that I’m forgetting the actual number of questions on the first LR. I finished early enough to quickly look over the questions again. I’m sure that I would’ve notice any unanswered questions.

  36. Victor says:

    I had RC LR RC LG LR

    I agree with people on the LR; it wasn’t that bad.

    The last LG was indeed killer, and I think I took about the same time finishing that as I did finishing the other three….

    I actually found my second RC harder than the first. There was one passage in the second RC that just took the wind out of my sails. Thankfully, the break came up, and I had time to recover.

  37. Mark says:

    Man, these games were hard. I hope this test has a lenient equation/curve.

  38. Ben says:

    For those of you who had two RCs in the order of RC, LR, RC, LG, LR, I’m one hundred percent positive that the second RC was the experimental…Which sucks, because the first RC was pretty hard. But, it seems like everyone here found the RC difficult, so I feel a bit better.

    Otherwise, I found the LR pretty standard (maybe on the easy side) and the LG very easy except for the last question which threw me off pretty badly.

    Now to wait…

    • Katie says:

      I’m just not sure that everyone had the same RCs first and second, ya know? From talking to some people, it sounds like they were switched for some of us.

      • Daniel says:

        Is it possible for the experimental to be in different sections despite the same arrangement of sections?

        Ultimately, for the RC LR RC LG LR arrangement, could the experimental really be either the first or second RC section?

        • Katie says:

          It really seems like it based on the topics for some of the people I talked to, but we all could be completely off…

  39. Brian Del Bono says:

    My version was LR, RC , LR, LR,and LG!

    RC was immensely hard to follow. LR seemed fairly straightforward except the first one.

  40. mary says:

    i had LR RC LR LR LG
    the last game of LG was too wordy and i couldn’t finish it although i am best at LG.. i’m hoping the first LR was experimental…… PLEASE

  41. Anon says:

    Usually games is my best section but I found these games to be fairly tricky, especially the last game– what was that?? Had to guess on it.

  42. Jon says:

    I had lg,rc,lr,lr,lg
    The real game was the 2nd, im usually VERY good at games but the 4th game stumped me entirely, im thinking they will throw out a question or two and it will be curved it was very unusual

  43. Aylin says:

    LG RC LR LR LG

    Pretty sure the first LG section was experimental. The second one was good for the first three games but the fourth game took several re- reads and several attempts to figure out what the proper set up would be. I really didn’t have time to flush it out.

    LR wasn’t too bad pretty much what I expected.

    RC – I hated it. That first passage was a huge time suck. I didn’t have time to finish and I don’t think my accuracy was too hot either.

    Overall the test was ok but definitely not one of the easiest. Hoping for a lenient curve and some lucky guesses!

  44. Nikita says:

    I had RC, LR, RC, LG, LR.

    not sure which RC was the experimental, both were kind’ve rough. the 4th game seemed difficult at first but then it turned out to be fairly simple but that could also mean i just effed up really badly haha

    LR was pretty straightforward, couple questions that i thought were a little tricky

    overall seemed like an “average” test

  45. Matt says:

    Am I crazy are was there a section of LR that had 27 questions? I don’t ever remember practicing with 27 questions..

    • mary says:

      yup. I had 3 LR’s, and the first one had 27 questions

      • Matt says:

        Did the 27 question LR section end up being the experimental for you guys? I am just curious because I recently took the 2013 October LSAT and also had 3 Logical reasoning sections, and the first one had 27 questions..

  46. Mike says:

    I left the test with an awful feeling in my stomach, but reading all these comments made me realize that a lot of us are in the same boat and maybe I’m just overreacting haha.

    LR, RC, LR, LR, LG for me. LG is usually my best section, but that last game was tough. I answered the first two questions for that game and had to guess on the rest. RC was awful, but I thought LR was alright.

    • mary says:

      WORD!!
      “LR, RC, LR, LR, LG for me. LG is usually my best section, but that last game was tough. I answered the first two questions for that game and had to guess on the rest. ”

      Seriously, same thing happened here!!

  47. Bibb says:

    I had Lg, rc, lr, lr, lg. I didn’t get through the last two games on the first lg. Although, I’m fairly certain that I did well on the first two. I hope it was the experimental. The second lg was pretty easy until the last game which was confusing at first and took a few times to read for the setupz. LRs were what I expected and Rc was intense, which seems to be the general consensus.

  48. bob says:

    I had RC LR RC LG LR.

    I agree with most that the RC was the hardest I ever encountered before. I finished the first RC with 8 mins to spare and took an early bathroom break.

    LR sections were straightforward and nothing too challenging.

    LG the first three were easy, but the last one was too many damn words in it. I only had five minutes left and didn’t have time to diagram anything. I just went question by question referring back to the conditions and I felt like I got most of them right. If you were able to get the 1Q right it developed the rest of the game for you easily (i.e. all the rules applied to it alone).

    • bob joe says:

      you took an early bathroom break with 8 minutes left in the section? lolololol that’s the most ridiculous thing i’ve ever heard. why would you not ruthlessly double check your answers? you were just 100% absolutely sure you had every question right? lol

  49. Kelly says:

    What does anyone know about what lg was like?

  50. Ryan says:

    LR LR RC LR LG

    LR overall wasn’t too bad except for some awkwardly worded questions. RC was long with four full length passages. LG was ok, except for the last game…..

  51. Erin says:

    RC, LR, RC, LG, LR

    I found the RC to be completely unforgiving. It didn’t help my focus that I took the test right next to a person who didn’t stop coughing throughout the whole of the test.

    I thought I would do the worst on the LR parts, but if anything is going to be my saving grace it’s those. LG were pretty standard I thought, except for one tricky variable in one of the games that kept throwing me off.

    Overall, I’m slightly disappointed with the outcome, but I’m not that upset. I wish I was going to get another chance to take it in December and February, but unfortunately for me I have mandatory military training during those months. So I guess what I got today and the strengths from the rest of my application will have to stand on their own.

  52. Shane says:

    I had RC, LR, RC, LG, LR

    The first 3 sections I pretty much breezed through. I found logic games pretty tough (although it’s been my one Achilles heel), the second LR section at the end was a little harder than the first, but not too much.

  53. Lindsey says:

    One of my LG was the experimental. It was mean of LSAC because I had LG for the 3rd section, then we had our break. I was just glad LG was over because while it wasn’t incredibly rough, I knew I hadn’t done as well as I’d liked. Then we trooped in for the 4th section and…it was LG. I nearly cried. I’m pretty sure I bombed the second LG section. The RC and LR I felt I did very well on though.

  54. Katie MS says:

    I had LR, RC, LR, LR, LG.

    I suprisingly thought the LR sections were the most tricky (maybe because I had 3 of them). RC wasn’t that bad in my opinion and LG was okay except, of course, the last one. From what I remember, all of the LR’s were 25 questions.

    Any feelings about what could have been the experimental LR?

  55. Aaron says:

    I had RC, LR, LG, LG, and LR

    RC was an absolute killer. That is normally my weakest section, but that was way worse then it usually is. Both LR’s were fairly straightforward although I do not feel as if I did as well as I usually do on it because of a lack of focus. The first three LGS on my first LG section were extremely easy and finished them in less then 20 minutes, but the last one was very tricky and took me up to the last minute of time. The second LG was more difficult. The first game I wasn’t focused, the middle two were easy, and the last one was slightly difficult. I am hoping the LG3 was real as I feel like I got every question right, but I am not sure because for me both last games of each LG section I had were harder then the rest and that seems to be the consensus and I cannot distinguish the real from the fake.

    • S123456 says:

      Had the exact same thing, first LG was super easy until the last game which was harrrddd, had to guess a couple. Any way we can confirm which was the experimental?

      • Aaron says:

        I do not have the slightest idea which one was real. Its hard to distinguish as both of the sections had hard last games. The only way to find out would be to talk with someone who only had one logic game and figure out what type of games they had in their section since both of my LG sections each had 23 questions.

        • Aaron says:

          I feel that section III LG was experimental, but I’m not sure. What do you think and why?

          • Allison says:

            I read somewhere that the experimental is always within the first three sections before the break. I don’t know how true it is, though.

  56. Drew says:

    Mine was RC/LR/RC/LG/LR

    The 3rd was the experimental which is unfortunate because I found that one to be easier. The last logic game was insane. Seriously, I sat there for four minutes just trying to figure out what it was trying to say. Horrible wording.

    Based on the comments, I’m hoping for a lenient curve.

  57. Tim says:

    I got RC, LR, LG, LG, LR.
    The first lg is very easy I feel, finished with 10 min left, the second one holy…the first 2 are okay the last two games you kidding me? Especially the third I feel is of great difficulty I filled guessed the 3rd game 5 question barely managed to finish the last with 5q
    On the other hand I suck at rc, so my judgement is poor on that, I didn’t feel the first rc to be more or less difficult than before. LR just riding along besides I feel there are a few tricky questions in 1-15? Might be wrong. If u guys who had only 1 lg didnt feel the 3rd game to be more difficult than the stained glass qurstion in preptest 6*, then that should be experimental….

  58. Olive Black says:

    How are people so confident that they know which section was experimental? From my understanding, you have no way of being 100% sure.

    • Guest says:

      You can compare what sections you had with people who took the test in a different format. The ones that don’t match up are experimental.

    • Eli says:

      you do. By comparing topics with someone with a different experimental. Everyone gets the same 4 graded sections.

  59. Ilona says:

    I had RC, LR, RC, LG, LR. RC was very intense, LR was not that hard, maybe just 4-5 moderately difficult questions. LG was hard, but manageable, I wish I started from the last LG since first 3 were easy, but I spent too much time on them and when I came to the last, I had 6 min left and it was not enough for that killer game. I hope my guesses were right :-) Good luck to all of us!

  60. Rach says:

    I had RC, LR, LG, LG, LR

    Does anyone know which LG was the experimental section?

    • Tim says:

      for US region, the one with a very hard fourth question is the real LG it seems. for other regions, I’m trying to find out too …

  61. Tim says:

    Hi, can I ask a general question? In general, is the American LSAT test (say preptest 61) used exactly (in term of ordering and contents) as it is in ALL other nations including UK, Canada, NZ/Aus and other places? I ask this because on some other forums, the UK RC for this October LSAT is totally different than the US one, and NZ/Aus one (when test takers had only 1 RC, it can not be experimental). The UK, NZ one also didn’t seem to have the dreaded fourth LG game which is said to have destroyed people in US. Is the US one harder or other region’s one harder if they’re not equal?

  62. gina says:

    To those that had RC, LR, RC, LG, LR ….. The first reading comp was NOT experimental…sorry….:/ i talked to another student who had two logic games sections and we were able to deduce that. not legit. but games more than made up for it— minus the last one being time consuming

  63. Tim says:

    Can the instructor of the blog please clarify is it true that the last two section (after the break) can NEVER be experimental section?

  64. XLogic says:

    I had RC, LR, RC, LG, LR

    I thought the RC sections were medium-tough but manageable. I never finish RC, but in this case I guessed on only 2 Qs on both RCs. However, I’m a bit apprehensive because most test takers on this blog (including the moderator) felt that the first RC was really tough.

    LG stumped me. Wasted time on G1 (not sure why). Performed better on G2 and G3. G4 — like what the? Had only 5 mins left for that killer game. Not fair :-(

  65. Joey says:

    I had RC, LR, LG, LG, LR….

    RC is normally my hardest section so I was happy to get it out of the way. Some of them were a bit tricky but overall the passages weren’t too bad. LR was fine, I felt prepared. LG is always my best section so I was thrown off by the back to back…hopefully the 1st LG was experimental because I think I did better on the 2nd.

  66. Mike says:

    Any one else thrown off guard by the logic games each being spread across two pages?

  67. Chris says:

    So I’ve taken enough practice tests to pretty much know I do without even looking at my score (I tend to guess before checking my score and my guess is almost always within 2 points of how I did). I normally am in the 168 range, give or take on practice tests. That did not happen yesterday, to say the least. The LR sections were fine, nothing crazy there, and RC was difficult, but I still feel as if I did fairly well, but LG killed me. I read one of the conditions on the third game wrong and put it in my diagram wrong, and did not notice until I had already wasted five minutes. Barely got to the fourth game and ended up having to guess on six questions in the section. I am pretty sure I’m sitting at a 164 right now, and given the fact that these guesses of mine somehow tend to be pretty accurate, I think I can say that was my score with confidence. I’m normally pretty consistent at 168 (my last 4 practices were that), so my question is should I keep this score or cancel? Should I keep it and go again in December? Or should I just keep it and go with it? I know that 4 point difference is pretty huge, just looking for some advice here… thanks all

    • Anonymous says:

      I think you should cancel. But I think its really huge if your applying to T-15. A 164 vs 168 could be a deal breaker.

      • Shannon says:

        It would depend on how the schools you apply to handle your scores. I am applying to a school that looks at your highest score not the average. If they are looking at your average and your GPA is not high then I would cancel. It depends on the schools you are looking at…..

    • Eugene says:

      This comment freaks me out just cuz there was a problem in the third game that i swear didn’t have a correct answer no matter how many times i tested all the options. Which leads me to believe that i might have interpreted one of the rules wrong…which definitely would have led me to pick other incorrect answers for that game…fml.

    • SC says:

      Chris, I’m in the same boat. This bites. I misinterpreted that pesky little rule in Game 3 and was clueless as to Game 4. I’m also sure my experimental was flawless, which makes it all the worse.

    • Adam says:

      You should NOT cancel. I am literally in the exact same boat as you. Averaging 169 on practice tests. That did not happen on October 6. Ran out of time on games, had to guess on 5. RC was kinda tough, not too bad. LR was fine. Im probably looking at a 164 as well. But honestly, cancelling is an absurd thing to do for either of us. 164 is the 90th percentile. A cancellation on your LSAC report will make law schools think that you absolutely bombed the test, which certainly is not the case. Remember that most test takers are simply trying to “pass”, which for most people is just beating the average (151). someone who cancels their score most likely scored in the 140’s. ALSO, if you want to start law school in fall ’13, which is my plan, you are much better off applying in november, using your october score whatever that may be. Use this time to focus on crafting an exceptional personal statement, have it edited by several other people. get your recommendations, resume squared away, and order your transcript. Most top schools have a rolling admissions process, meaning you will get a decision back within a few weeks of applying. They also receive 75% of their applications between December and the February deadline. Getting your application done in november with a 164/165 is only marginally worse than applying in January with a 167-168, because you will be up against 3 times as many applicants then. If you want to wait on law school, you can always retake it in december. having a 164 on your report, and then a 168 on the retake is infinitely better than a cancellation followed by a 168. good luck bro, hopefully we got 2 or 3 of our guesses right on that games section, scrape away with a very respectable 166!! and if not, f*** it!, this was the most asinine test I have ever taken, at least it is over.

  68. t0wlie says:

    also, anyone remember their games at all? my first game section was EASY! first two games were a breeze third decent and last one was okay.. then the second was much harder for me.

    • Aaron says:

      I had RC, LR, LG, LG, LR

      I had no issue with the first LG section I had. The last game was a bit difficult in that section but I feel as if I got all of the questions correct. However, my second LG section also had a tough 4th game so I am unsure about which section will count.

  69. Missy says:

    The PAGES WERE THICKER!! WOoO!!

    I don’t usually highlight, though I always bring it with me, just in case…

    I tested it on the paper, it was AMAZING! Did not bleed through. The pages also looked a tad bit whiter. But the thickness was weird, but good!!!

    • Rach says:

      Yea the pages were thicker…probs they can afford to print the test on better paper because they increased the fee. Lol

  70. Corey says:

    Hey everyone!

    I had LG, RC, LR, LR, L

    I found only one of the passages in RC fairly difficult, but maybe I just did terribly since everyone else seems to be finding that to have been the hardest portion.

    I completely agree about the last LG, which I’m pretty upset about since I’m fairly certain I got all the questions in my experimental section correct! WOMP WOMP.

    But in terms of LR, it was fairly straightforward, there were a couple I was uncertain of but definetly don’t feel like I did terrible on either of the two.

  71. Captain RedBurns says:

    LG- 23q, RC- 27q, LR- 25q, LR- 25q, LG- 23g.
    total 100 Questions
    I think the 2nd games was my experimental. The 4th game, which I suspect as experimental, I guessed on all of the questions. I don’t know if I missed something in the reading, but once I set the game up I knew nothing.

    I don’t want to give too much away about the test, but I really want to know which Games section was experimental. My estimated score varies by 10 points depending on which section was experimental. OMG I am hyperventilating.

    I wish you could pay extra to have your test scored within 1 week. With scantron tests, and the $5,000 LSAC makes per room of 30, they could invest in portable scanners. Maybe it wouldn’t be an official score, but then you could at least get an idea.

    • Katie says:

      Pretty sure that one with the crazy 4th game was the real one…seems to be general concensus that the real LG section had a crazy 4th game.

    • Toby says:

      I too had LG, RC, LR, LR, LG. The 5th section LG is the real deal; the 1st section was experimental. How do I know? A good friend also took the LSAT and had only one games section, and described the subject of one of the games. Bam…5th section, the one with the crazy last game.

    • Eugene says:

      Had the same order. I’m fairly certain the experimental is usually in the first half of the test (within the first three sections), that way the scored sections are evenly split between the two halves and the experimental section serves its secondary purpose of wearing test-takers out…but as with all things about the LSAC, it could have been different this time.

  72. Jack says:

    Did anyone have an RC section with 28 questions? I had two RC and I swear one had 28 and one had 27…

  73. Jules says:

    I had RC LR RC LG LR

    Can someone please please please confirm whether the earlier RC or the later RC was the real section? Thanks soooo much!

    I thought the earlier RC was ridiculous; had to guess on a few questions because the passages were so lengthy. The later RC section was more manageable but still pretty tough…

    • Al says:

      I feel your pain. I felt as though having such a difficult section first may have also impacted the LR section that followed. I have did not practice on a RC section that was even close to that overwhelming.

  74. Al says:

    RC/LR/RC/LG/LR

    Can anyone clarify for me this whole curve/lenient equation philosophy that everyone seems to be talking about? Do you think it will be a big difference? I would hope that everyone who had 2 RC sections struggled as much as I did with them (didnt even get to the last passage) and that the lower scores will be similar across the board….

    • Jack says:

      Did one of your RC sections have 28 questions? I also struggled with RC and it seems the first section, (which I believe had 28 questions), was scored.

      • Al says:

        I think it had 27 questions, which in itself threw me off. I have consistently practiced with 25 question (max) sections… even a couple extra questions to guess on or to rush through can hurt… I was so discouraged!

  75. Mike says:

    I do not believe there is a way of knowing which is experimental.
    Until 10/2011, it was always the first.
    But, now that LSAC has stated that either the first or second could be experimental, how can you tell which is?

    • Katie says:

      Not everyone gets the same experimental, so you can compare which sections you got with the sections others got and eliminate the ones that were different.

    • A says:

      Wasn’t it 1st,2nd,3rd. And then the LSAC stated that it could be the 4th/5th too?

  76. Eugene says:

    I had LG RC LR LR LG

    I actually thought that the last game was fairly straight forward…but there was one problem in the third game that I swear there wasn’t a correct answer to, but obviously I’m wrong since everyone is saying it was fairly straightforward.

    This was also my third time, but RC was unusually difficult, did my best to stick to the text but who knows how I actually did. Good luck to all!

  77. C says:

    So I just read that the experimental section for everyone could have been switched. Example I had RC, LR, RC, LG, LR
    Apparantly my experimental RC (which I’m pretty sure was 3rd), could be first for you.

    • Kristin says:

      Im really hoping this is the case..

      I had RC/LR/RC/LR/LG

      This was my first time writing the LSAT and the first logic reasoning was unlike any of the ones i studied before. First because it had 27 questions in the section and second because going into the test RC was my weakness so it scared me. I had to guess on the whole last passage- The rest of the test was good for me up until the last game in the last section (LG) – the last two questions i couldn’t get if my life depended on it.

      Does anyone know when the marks should be up???

  78. g.james says:

    I feel a little different than most of you that had the RC LR RC LG LR format. I thought the test was super easy all the way through the 15 minute break. In fact up until the end of the 15 minute break I felt like superman and I thought the test was the easiest one I had taken up to that point. Reality kind of kicked in for me on section 4 games but I think I survived it. On LR Section 5 however my brain was getting tired, so I cant render a credible opinion if section 5 was difficult or easy. i was having a hard time reading sentences at that point. I’m scared to death Section 5 may come back to haunt me and unfortunately for me I know section 5 was scored. Unlike many people, regardless of my score, I will not take the LSAT again even if it means I don’t go to law school. After 4 and a half months of studying for this test with several acceptable practice scores, I simply cannot look at another LSAT question again. This experience has been very hard and stressful for myself and my family and its still not over until the scores come out in few weeks. The only good thing at this point is that I don’t have to wake up and study anymore, which is actually a really good thing for me. My gut tells me I stand a real chance of passing but I also know there is a real chance that section 5 will do me in. As you can probably imagine, I’ve been spending alot of time praying. I wish everyone who took the test last Saturday Good luck.

  79. Andrew says:

    LR RC LR LR LG

    pretty positive that the 3rd section was experimental. games were rough. giving thanks for all the aderall i took it carried me through it

  80. sebastian says:

    I Had RC LR RC LG LR

    After reading what everyone has been saying, the first RC HAS to be the experimental. If not my score will invariably take a hit.

    Here’s to hoping that section 1 was experimental :p

  81. Matt says:

    RC LR RC LG LR

    I feel much better reading all these comments above as my 1st RC was brutal as all hell. I am pretty sure that the harder one counted because I felt as though the 1st LR was much easier than normal. I had plenty of time to finish 3 games and chose the 4th game instead of the third game. Big mistake! Getting a test with such a hard passage to start could be a huge disadvantage unless you keep telling yourself that it is experimental (even if it’s not).

  82. HENRY says:

    RC LR LG LG LR

    Reading Comp was especially long (27/28) questions and the first game section really overwhelmed, but ended up warming me up for the scored game which was right after the break. First LR was much more difficult that the second.

  83. Art says:

    I had RC, RC, LR, LR LG. I must say that having two RCs in a row was a nightmare and really fragged me out. Doing RC first was actually good as I was fresh but two in a row was pretty devastating. At the same time, it was nice to know they were done. I thought the LRs were really easy and LG wasn’t bad except for that last question. It was confusing and, being last, I just hadn’t left enough time for it. Now we wait for the score!

  84. Kristy says:

    I am in total agreement with most of you regarding the RC sections, obviously one of them experimental and bizarre in my opinion. I focused on studying the LR and LG and now I wish I had worked on the RC more to increase my speed. I had to go back and read most of the passages because they just seemed like coded messages, even the “main idea” – that is normally super easy, seemed to be hidden. Crossing fingers here.

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